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Title: Internet slang...
Post by: Dragonclaw on July 05, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Yikes... if you look up "CRAFT" on this page of internet slang terms

http://www.internetslang.com/FML.asp
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: FidelaTresori on July 05, 2012, 05:54:29 PM
LOL. Well that is applicable here some days. ;0)
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Post by: Dee38753 on July 05, 2012, 06:00:57 PM
Well....while I don't use that special word in the slang version....some days it just fits!!!
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Post by: myeuropeantouch on July 06, 2012, 12:46:27 PM
The shorter version is on my coffee mug CRS..."Cant remember S***"......... :-\
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Post by: MakinTheBest on July 06, 2012, 02:03:12 PM
My, that definition fits me a lot of the time!
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Post by: ArtbyNancyPace on July 06, 2012, 03:38:20 PM
I too have problems remembering, I just wish rude words were not implied. If you have to star it out..... I guess I will not use it. I noticed lots of them had that.
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: FidelaTresori on July 06, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Words are just words.  People give them too much power sometimes. :shrug:
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Post by: ArtbyNancyPace on July 06, 2012, 10:13:19 PM
I believe words have much power, so I try to chose mine wisely. I figure I have a larger vocabulary than words that need a bleep.
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Post by: FidelaTresori on July 06, 2012, 10:20:58 PM
But sometimes I like to give mine the power of expression to really convey what I want, what I'm feeling. I don't let myself be restricted when I feel it necessary.   
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Post by: trusk4u on July 07, 2012, 09:31:06 AM
That was quite the eye opener. Personally I don't mind mild swearing, but the harsher stuff, no thanks. I've always felt that it made a person look stupid because they couldn't come up with a better, real word to use instead. I tried to teach my kids that, but they use the "f" word frequently. I think it may be partly generational. They have however been much more careful about using it in my presence.
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Post by: ArtbyNancyPace on July 07, 2012, 10:36:47 AM
This is an interesting discussion, I am far from perfect,  ??? I have small ears that repeat things at the worse possible time  ;D That is a strong teaching about reaping what you sow. One of my granddaughter (12) mentioned one day she had never heard me swear, I didn't realize she was paying attention that close attention to my actions.

Everyone must make their own choices. God knows my heart even if I don't say the words,and what is in a persons heart frequently comes out of the mouth, so I guard mine, I know he is listening.
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Post by: FidelaTresori on July 07, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
Then I have nothing to worry about.  ;0)
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Post by: Dragonclaw on July 07, 2012, 05:07:28 PM
It was not my intent to create any controversy...  :-\
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: Nancy Pace on July 07, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
Matt, you didn't do anything, a discussion is a good thing:) I had no idea about the slang, I was very surprised.

I don't feel there is a problem, we all have our way of thinking. Don't worry so,all is well.
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: Larissa on July 07, 2012, 06:15:39 PM
People make up lots of slang & acronyms for chat/text purposes.  I was online in the early '90s before there even WAS an internet, and being able to type things out quickly in a chat room was paramount.  Hence the generation of LOL, AFK (away from keyboard), BRB (be right back), LMAO, ROTFL, TTYL (talk to you later), etc.  The more people got into chatting - and even more so texting, especially with flip phones that don't have great keyboards - the more popular and prevalent the acronyms got.  It's been interesting to watch the growth.

I was raised not to curse.  I wasn't allowed to say "bad words," and those included damn, hell, dumb, and stupid.  I think not cursing as a kid, in conjunction with reading voraciously, did help me build a better vocabulary.  Now I've still got the vocabulary but can curse with  the best of 'em.  I actually remember the first time I did.  It was 7th grade, I was waiting for the bus, and I realized my algebra book was missing.  It had been stolen.  My curse was solely exclamatory:  "S---!"

As for whether words have power and whether curses have their place... well, some of you may be familiar with the case Cohen v. California (1971) (http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/comm/free_speech/cohen.html), which started when a guy was arrested for wearing a jacket emblazoned with "F--- the draft!" in a courthouse.  The United States Supreme Court actually overturned his conviction, stating that while he could have worn something like "I hate the draft," or "I'm against the draft," "much linguistic expression serves a dual communicative function: it conveys not only ideas capable of relatively precise, detached explication, but otherwise inexpressible emotions as well. In fact, words are often chosen as much for their emotive as their cognitive force."

So there you go.  If the USSC says so...

 ;)
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Post by: FidelaTresori on July 07, 2012, 08:04:53 PM
Yep, Larissa.  I too have an extensive vocabulary that I also attribute to being a voracious reader.  And while I too try to be very considerate of the people and the situation, I have no problem using expletives to convey extreme emotion in given situations, either. LOL

Words are just words, not bad or good in and of themselves, but only have the power with which we load them.

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Post by: Larissa on July 07, 2012, 08:27:42 PM
Well, I agree with Nancy that words DO have a lot of power, but that's the point.  You WANT them to have power. 

And that's what the Supreme Court said too.  Sometimes the proper emotion just can't be conveyed with substitute words when you want to demonstrate that level of emotion.  And the Court recognized that those words do that.
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: Uniqlets on July 08, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
I must agree with Larissa.  Sometimes, "curse" words express some levels or frustration or anger or another emotion more concisely and precisely than other words.  I have a lot of trouble understanding the extreme reaction that people have to words that do not disparage another person or group of people.  I never cursed until I was in college.  The fuss seems excessive.  If you don't like a word, don't use it.
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Post by: Larissa on July 08, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
Lisa, you've reminded me, there ARE words I have never and will never say, mostly racial epithets.  I just can't.  The "N word" appeared in a monologue I was doing for an acting class years ago.  It wasn't really necessary to the story, so I got the teacher to let me leave that sentence out.  Otherwise, I'd have found a different monologue.
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: Nancy Pace on July 08, 2012, 10:39:46 AM
I am thankful to live where everyone is free to decide for themselves how to speak, and Lisa you are so right if you don't like a word don't say it. And I see the point of using certain words to make your feelings better know, to each his own.

I have been an advocate of a clean vocabulary so long, that my grandchildren think stupid,  crazy,dumb,retarded, are bad words :o yes, Larissa, no racial slurs allowed.

The beautiful thing it we are free to make our own choices, we have the internet to learn about other people, we can have a civil discussion and are free to disagree. But at the end we are still friends because we respect other peoples rights ;D
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Post by: Larissa on July 08, 2012, 10:47:22 AM
Nancy, those were all bad words when I was a kid too.
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Post by: Nancy Pace on July 08, 2012, 12:18:57 PM
Yes, Larissa words can be as hurtful as a club:) I came from the wrong side of the tracks, so I know it does matter how you speak, treat people and present yourself if you want to reach higher goals.
My grandparents only finished 6th & 8th grades, but they were readers, and loved to learn. That opened the door for me to step out of the box and do things with my life they had always thought of  for "other" people not us poor folk.
They also had a strong Christian faith and used the bible as rule book, a gentle rule book, those values still guide me today as a grandparent with Grandchildren nearing college age.
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: Uniqlets on July 10, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
I have more trouble with crazy, dumb and retarded because they are words that wold be hurtful to people who have learning disabilities, who do not speak because they do not hear, or people with mental illnesses. 
Larissa,  I understand why you are against using the N word as am I.  I am also opposed to those who want to censor literature to remove the word.  In the context of many written works, it uniquely expresses a particular level of discrimination.
I am thankful to live where everyone is free to decide for themselves how to speak, and Lisa you are so right if you don't like a word don't say it. And I see the point of using certain words to make your feelings better know, to each his own.

I have been an advocate of a clean vocabulary so long, that my grandchildren think stupid,  crazy,dumb,retarded, are bad words :o yes, Larissa, no racial slurs allowed.

The beautiful thing it we are free to make our own choices, we have the internet to learn about other people, we can have a civil discussion and are free to disagree. But at the end we are still friends because we respect other peoples rights ;D
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: FidelaTresori on July 10, 2012, 08:02:59 AM
What Lisa said.  Yeah, that's where I am pretty much.  Can't stand any word or words that are used to discriminate against anyone.

There are too many words not classified as bad words necessarily that can be so loaded and harmful when used the wrong way, when people pay too much attention to being offended by "curse words."
Title: Re: Internet slang...
Post by: lisianblue on July 11, 2012, 04:04:57 AM
What Lisa said.  Yeah, that's where I am pretty much.  Can't stand any word or words that are used to discriminate against anyone.

There are too many words not classified as bad words necessarily that can be so loaded and harmful when used the wrong way, when people pay too much attention to being offended by "curse words."
well said!

My kids swearing occasionally didn't bother me as much as the use of retard, stupid etc -  Those words and racial slurs just weren't allowed.

as for Craft - well , heck now do i have to find another word to use for "craft"?