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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dragonclaw on July 05, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
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Yikes... if you look up "CRAFT" on this page of internet slang terms
http://www.internetslang.com/FML.asp
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LOL. Well that is applicable here some days. ;0)
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Well....while I don't use that special word in the slang version....some days it just fits!!!
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The shorter version is on my coffee mug CRS..."Cant remember S***"......... :-\
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My, that definition fits me a lot of the time!
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I too have problems remembering, I just wish rude words were not implied. If you have to star it out..... I guess I will not use it. I noticed lots of them had that.
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Words are just words. People give them too much power sometimes. :shrug:
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I believe words have much power, so I try to chose mine wisely. I figure I have a larger vocabulary than words that need a bleep.
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But sometimes I like to give mine the power of expression to really convey what I want, what I'm feeling. I don't let myself be restricted when I feel it necessary.
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That was quite the eye opener. Personally I don't mind mild swearing, but the harsher stuff, no thanks. I've always felt that it made a person look stupid because they couldn't come up with a better, real word to use instead. I tried to teach my kids that, but they use the "f" word frequently. I think it may be partly generational. They have however been much more careful about using it in my presence.
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This is an interesting discussion, I am far from perfect, ??? I have small ears that repeat things at the worse possible time ;D That is a strong teaching about reaping what you sow. One of my granddaughter (12) mentioned one day she had never heard me swear, I didn't realize she was paying attention that close attention to my actions.
Everyone must make their own choices. God knows my heart even if I don't say the words,and what is in a persons heart frequently comes out of the mouth, so I guard mine, I know he is listening.
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Then I have nothing to worry about. ;0)
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It was not my intent to create any controversy... :-\
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Matt, you didn't do anything, a discussion is a good thing:) I had no idea about the slang, I was very surprised.
I don't feel there is a problem, we all have our way of thinking. Don't worry so,all is well.
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People make up lots of slang & acronyms for chat/text purposes. I was online in the early '90s before there even WAS an internet, and being able to type things out quickly in a chat room was paramount. Hence the generation of LOL, AFK (away from keyboard), BRB (be right back), LMAO, ROTFL, TTYL (talk to you later), etc. The more people got into chatting - and even more so texting, especially with flip phones that don't have great keyboards - the more popular and prevalent the acronyms got. It's been interesting to watch the growth.
I was raised not to curse. I wasn't allowed to say "bad words," and those included damn, hell, dumb, and stupid. I think not cursing as a kid, in conjunction with reading voraciously, did help me build a better vocabulary. Now I've still got the vocabulary but can curse with the best of 'em. I actually remember the first time I did. It was 7th grade, I was waiting for the bus, and I realized my algebra book was missing. It had been stolen. My curse was solely exclamatory: "S---!"
As for whether words have power and whether curses have their place... well, some of you may be familiar with the case Cohen v. California (1971) (http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/comm/free_speech/cohen.html), which started when a guy was arrested for wearing a jacket emblazoned with "F--- the draft!" in a courthouse. The United States Supreme Court actually overturned his conviction, stating that while he could have worn something like "I hate the draft," or "I'm against the draft," "much linguistic expression serves a dual communicative function: it conveys not only ideas capable of relatively precise, detached explication, but otherwise inexpressible emotions as well. In fact, words are often chosen as much for their emotive as their cognitive force."
So there you go. If the USSC says so...
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Yep, Larissa. I too have an extensive vocabulary that I also attribute to being a voracious reader. And while I too try to be very considerate of the people and the situation, I have no problem using expletives to convey extreme emotion in given situations, either. LOL
Words are just words, not bad or good in and of themselves, but only have the power with which we load them.
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Well, I agree with Nancy that words DO have a lot of power, but that's the point. You WANT them to have power.
And that's what the Supreme Court said too. Sometimes the proper emotion just can't be conveyed with substitute words when you want to demonstrate that level of emotion. And the Court recognized that those words do that.
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I must agree with Larissa. Sometimes, "curse" words express some levels or frustration or anger or another emotion more concisely and precisely than other words. I have a lot of trouble understanding the extreme reaction that people have to words that do not disparage another person or group of people. I never cursed until I was in college. The fuss seems excessive. If you don't like a word, don't use it.
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Lisa, you've reminded me, there ARE words I have never and will never say, mostly racial epithets. I just can't. The "N word" appeared in a monologue I was doing for an acting class years ago. It wasn't really necessary to the story, so I got the teacher to let me leave that sentence out. Otherwise, I'd have found a different monologue.
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I am thankful to live where everyone is free to decide for themselves how to speak, and Lisa you are so right if you don't like a word don't say it. And I see the point of using certain words to make your feelings better know, to each his own.
I have been an advocate of a clean vocabulary so long, that my grandchildren think stupid, crazy,dumb,retarded, are bad words :o yes, Larissa, no racial slurs allowed.
The beautiful thing it we are free to make our own choices, we have the internet to learn about other people, we can have a civil discussion and are free to disagree. But at the end we are still friends because we respect other peoples rights ;D
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Nancy, those were all bad words when I was a kid too.
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Yes, Larissa words can be as hurtful as a club:) I came from the wrong side of the tracks, so I know it does matter how you speak, treat people and present yourself if you want to reach higher goals.
My grandparents only finished 6th & 8th grades, but they were readers, and loved to learn. That opened the door for me to step out of the box and do things with my life they had always thought of for "other" people not us poor folk.
They also had a strong Christian faith and used the bible as rule book, a gentle rule book, those values still guide me today as a grandparent with Grandchildren nearing college age.
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I have more trouble with crazy, dumb and retarded because they are words that wold be hurtful to people who have learning disabilities, who do not speak because they do not hear, or people with mental illnesses.
Larissa, I understand why you are against using the N word as am I. I am also opposed to those who want to censor literature to remove the word. In the context of many written works, it uniquely expresses a particular level of discrimination.
I am thankful to live where everyone is free to decide for themselves how to speak, and Lisa you are so right if you don't like a word don't say it. And I see the point of using certain words to make your feelings better know, to each his own.
I have been an advocate of a clean vocabulary so long, that my grandchildren think stupid, crazy,dumb,retarded, are bad words :o yes, Larissa, no racial slurs allowed.
The beautiful thing it we are free to make our own choices, we have the internet to learn about other people, we can have a civil discussion and are free to disagree. But at the end we are still friends because we respect other peoples rights ;D
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What Lisa said. Yeah, that's where I am pretty much. Can't stand any word or words that are used to discriminate against anyone.
There are too many words not classified as bad words necessarily that can be so loaded and harmful when used the wrong way, when people pay too much attention to being offended by "curse words."
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What Lisa said. Yeah, that's where I am pretty much. Can't stand any word or words that are used to discriminate against anyone.
There are too many words not classified as bad words necessarily that can be so loaded and harmful when used the wrong way, when people pay too much attention to being offended by "curse words."
well said!
My kids swearing occasionally didn't bother me as much as the use of retard, stupid etc - Those words and racial slurs just weren't allowed.
as for Craft - well , heck now do i have to find another word to use for "craft"?